Thanks IndiePath for the BlitzMax version! hmm... I'm seeing a disturbing trend. We seem to be getting better performance on our own machines compared to running on other machines. IndiePath stated speeds better than DOUBLE my engine on his machine, yet on my machine the BlitzMax version runs slower than the 2 previous demos. The attached screen grab shows it running at 36fps. "FYI, I can run 10,000 Sprites in BMAX at 60FPS." I got 10,000 at 10fps on my box.