Recommended mod-list for phpBB forums?

Discussion in 'Game Development (Technical)' started by wazoo, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. wazoo

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    Hi,

    My forums are getting pounded by pr0n and various other spammers to the point where I'm forced to check the forums quite regularly to delete any posts.

    I'm on the verge of moving over to vBulletin to see if that fixes things, but I'd like to take one last crack at phpBB (just to make sure I tried everything).

    Within the hundreds of mods available is there a list of "best practices for blocking spammers mods" for site admins?

    thanks!
     
  2. Dan MacDonald

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    Not to use Phpbb? Seriously.

    I realize vbulliten costs $150 bucks or so. But for someone trying to build/run a community the administrative hassle of trying to keep phpbb secure really isn't worth the price tag.

    Almost everyone I know who has tried to run a community with phpbb have had their forums corrupted or spammed or in some way defaced at one point or another.
     
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  3. wazoo

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    It's *that* bad? (I'm being serious)
     
  4. DrWilloughby

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    Mine is a complete mess too. I just started looking into this myself. About 1 out of 10 registered users is valid, the rest are for ads or porn.
     
  5. cyrus_zuo

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    I've always thought that this was more of a moderation issue than a forum software issue?

    I use phpBB and strongly recommend that you:
    a) have moderators
    b) find the old prune users mod and install it...it works with the newest phpBB version even though you will run into a point where you clearly can't do what it asks you to do in the installation...just ignore that part...it helps keep the forum cleaner
    c) remove website links in profiles and memberlists
    d) consider hand approving applications to post (which goes back to a)

    phpBB has its short-comings to be sure, but I don't think they're horrible...no matter what you do someone being paid in Russia will log into your forum sooner or later and post something objectionable.
     
  6. Frozen In Ice

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    Haven't had any problems with mine and it's been online for about 6 months now. Maybe it's related to the setup? :confused:
     
  7. Dan MacDonald

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    It's related to exposure. Once your forums hit a certian level of exposure/traffic they'll start to get targeted.

    The point I'm trying to make is that "free" is too much to pay when it becomes an administration issue. It's actually cheaper to pay 150 bucks for something like vbullitin and not have to have an army of moderators or be constantly updating mods and pruning accounts.

    We get very few false accounts, I've maybe deleted one or two. We don't get bot's coming by posting pr0n. It just doesn't happen. The biggest work item for admins and mods of these forums is moderating legitimate people who occasionally get out of line, or post inappropriatly. Granted this is the job of a moderator, the other issues are what should be handled by the forum software.

    PTK forums are gone, puppygames forums - same deal. It just becomes too much of a hassle to try and maintain a phpbb based forum.
     
  8. wazoo

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    Sold. I'll pick up a vBulletin license asap.

    If I don't have time to constantly admin the forums to delete posts, then I also don't have time to hand approve each posting (which goes against trying to create an "open" community IMHO).

    Thanks everyone, and to @Dan especially for the insight!

    The site is getting more exposure, so it's time to fix it now before customers are annoyed to the point of going elsewhere.
     
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  10. Didier

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    Take VBulletin, it's well worth the cost.
    Don't waste your time on hackers and spammers with a phpbb board. ;)

    Didier
     
  11. wazoo

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    I agree! vBulletin already bought and launched! ;)

    Now I just have to see about getting some of the content out of the old boards into the new one. ;)

    Thanks again everyone for the advice!
     
  12. Pyabo

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    I really don't understand how phpBB could *still* be facing these kinds of problems. Years and years of development have not solved this? Is this the open source model at work?
     
  13. Didier

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    Yeah, that open source part is probably the biggest problem and also because the code is easier than VBulletin.
    You already have to be an advanced coder to even understand VBulletin's code. :)

    Didier
     
  14. cyrus_zuo

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    This thread has me asking a question as I continually consider the future of my own site.

    What does vBulletin do that decreases the number of spammers? As bots have been replaced by human spammers for the most part, what keeps them from signing up on vBulletin?

    Appreciate the info :)
     
  15. Fost

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    We were getting a lot of this too, the best way to stop it might sound controversial: block *.ru addresses from signing up. The only Russians on our site anyway use something else like hotmail, and if they need to and mail in, there's so few I'm happy to add them by hand.

    Even so, as Russel says, a lot of this is being done by hand, and even vbulletin boards have been hit. Phpbb is a bigger target because there now exist scripts which can read the CAPTCHA. phpbb3 has a vastly improved captcha which should fix this and I think vbulletin may already have updated their a while back.

    Also, all boards are moving towards users being completely invisible until they veryify their email address - this is the main reason phpbb boards are getting hit, and the main problem with it. There's a mod out for it, although I wish they'd roll it into the main board system. It's of course fixed in phpbb3, which is not looking far off now.


    I suspect in the near future, once everyone's upgraded or switched their boards to software that combats this problem, we'll end up getting human registrants spamming. This is tons more annoying...
     
  16. Dan MacDonald

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    We get the odd human spammer, but the 48h wait period seems to scare most of them away. We get one or two a week, and their posts are reported swiftly by the IG forum members and they get taken down pretty quick.
     
  17. Mike Boeh

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    I don't have much experience with other forums- but for me, vbulletin is worth EVERY DIME and then some!

    A lot of the major forums on the net, like webhostingtalk.com use vbulletin.
     
  18. Frozen In Ice

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    Ours is pretty quiet compared to some, so I'm sure what you've said makes sense. It's more of a support option than anything. Plus, users have to register and be approved prior to posting. I'm sure that's keeping the traffic low, but it's not really a concern as our support issues are pretty rare. It'll do for now, but should the traffic increase, we'll definately consider the option of switching.
     

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