Then put your money where your mouth is. If you know of such a system the answer is very simple. You cash out all your money, take loans do whatever it takes and play that system and you'll be rich. However, I've never known of anyone who defends this point of view that does what I've suggested. It's always somebody elses system, or they don't have enough cash or some other excuse. There's always an excuse. It's just like psychics who can't perform when a professional magician is around. Suddenly the right vibrations aren't in the air. I'm sorry but I can't agree. You're really comparing apples and oranges here. In my view you're suggesting something akin to analyzing dice rolls to predict when the next 6 will come up. I've read some of what Tom wrote about stocks on his blog and so on, and I've made money on stocks myself. That being said, I believe he's wrong on this particular subject. He's not the only one in the world who thinks there's something to know about trading. There's obviously a lot of "experts" and books on the subject and so on and I've read many of them. The same could be said about telling your horoscope. You cant tell what kind of a person someone is because he's born a certain day and similarly you can't tell where a stock will go based on a historical graph. If Tom has made money in the market then good for him, but I don't think it's based on clever strategy. I'm sure Enron would have looked like a fine investment based on the information the public had. How can you really know? You can guess. You can say.. I think the work that optimal biometics is doing will be successful in developing a new drug and buy some of their stock. But you can't know with any certainty! And if your strategy is based on charts and historical data and trading strategies then you're really rolling the dice as far as I'm concerned. I guess people heavily in the market would like to believe that, but at the end of the day they're vulnerable. You can improve your odds maybe by using some clever strategies, but never so much that you will consistently turn a profit. Everyone is an expert when the market is doing well and almost nobody is when it crashes. I spent years working on stock market software of one kind or another for well known wall-street companies so I do know a little about this sort of thing. I'd love to have a good trading strategy, but I think at the end of the day it boils down to luck or knowledge others dont have. I stand by my original statement. I won't respond to this subject again, because it's one of those that can lead to endless debate. I'd say that if you believe such trading strategies exist that you can consistently turn a profit then just put your money into it. Most people are a hell of a lot less sure of their trading strategies when it comes to betting everything they have though.