EDMUND-A game about a Rapist [FREEWARE][NSFW]

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  1. Farmergnome

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    Thanks for the responses on the video, I will probably place more up in the coming days, but the problem still remains that the game is about a rapist, and the most obvious theme is rape, and regardless of what trailer I add, Its going to contain the same content, because that's what the game is.... at first glance.

    Its in the context its displayed that matters, but unfortunately if I put too much of that in the trailer then playing the game is rather pointless. It seems people want the warning of the rape scene, but want the story too, all in a tidy little video so they don't have to stretch themselves... no.

    The game is build to make you feel ill, if you are having a hard time clicking that .EXE, then great you made me very happy :)

    Hopefully this clears up some problems:

    http://gamerlimit.com/2009/08/edmund-interview-where-do-we-draw-the-moral-lin/

    Thanks gamerlimit for contacting me.
     
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  2. Musenik

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    Alex, you found the words I've been looking for since this post started stinking with ignorant and mean posts.

    For the record, I chose not to play the game or view the video and will not comment on them. The author labeled this thread sufficiently for me to be comfortable with my choice.
     
  3. princec

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    Good interview btw.

    Cas :)
     
  4. tolik

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    As some of my work tasks include reviewing cool games, I can't do anything with EDMUND-A due to license agreement in the topic of that thread: NSFW. I can't use it at work. Dang.

    So I didn't watch the trailer nor played the game nor commented.
    Oops, I just commented. What are you talking about?
     
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    I love you.
     
  6. Qitsune

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    Actually, I think that actually exists. I wouldn't be surprised to know there's a get like that in japanese arcades. I don't get why people get so up in arms about the idea of rape in a game. It's not the first game to have it and other media have them too. RAPES HAPPEN, it's ok to talk about that. You can watch a movie where someone gets raped and it doesn't make you a sicko, you can read a book where someone gets raped and it doesn't mean that your are a nutcase. Heck, there are dozens of war games everywhere but none of them even mentions the fact that the winning side routinely (still to this day) rapes just about whatever they can get their hands on on the loosing side. I'm not talking about having the players do it. Maybe a mission could be to find your mates who are doing it and dragging their sorry asses to the commander or something.
    My only gripe was not with the game but with the trailer but HDL perfectly resumed my thoughts about that.
     
  7. GBC

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    That's a valid point of view, but it also reflects the way in which you decide to experience and enjoy games, which is necessarily subjective. What about games as a form of art, games as purveyors of social messages, games as mindless entertainment, games as therapy, games as satire etc? All of those are equally valid point of views and can validly be represented in the gaming landscape. For example, I'm very interesting in both games as satire and games as an artistic media, as well as being (also by virtue of profession) deeply interested in game mechanics, like you. All of those positions, though, are minority compared to the prevailing function of entertainment that games have for the wider public. That doesn't mean that artsy or difficult games don't have a place on the market, though....
     
  8. princec

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    Personally I'm all for people making games about rape or torture or even paedophilia if they feel like it. I just wouldn't expect them to be popular in the least because most people don't find these things to be a part of themselves that they would like to explore. And especially not here where we're generally focused on selling stuff.

    Cas :)
     
  9. GBC

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    In Japan, the rape games category is a fairly sizable industry. That doesn't make it cool or even right (in fact, it makes it fucked up), and I don't think it's really the point here, but I'm just pointing it out since your latest point was about commercial appeal of those games. I think a game that aims to make people reflect on the issue, and even shock, must be an improvement over games that glorify it or allow people to live it as a fantasy.
     
  10. Anthony Flack

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    My girlfriend wasn't offended by this game (she's an adult), but she found comments like this one extremely patronising.

    Hysterical, in both senses of the word.
     
  11. princec

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    On the other hand, my girlfriend was quite aghast when I showed her the trailer.

    Possibly the main seeds of thought this thread shows is how or how not to market a concept.

    Cas :)
     
  12. AnthemAudio

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    Haven't played the game, not interested. All I did is watch the trailer and made a gut-reaction, barely-informed decision to avoid it. I think that's a legitimate reaction, it's ultimately the same reaction I see people giving who have played it. Sure they may have found something interesting in the narrative, or a gameplay mechanic, or apparently the sound (which gets mentioned a lot) but I don't think you should discount people's opinion of this because they have an adverse reaction to it's marketing. Since you're clearly anti-rape, then you want to make people feel uneasy, disturbed, provoked about the topic. Yet my opinion is discounted because I got the same reaction before playing? Don't I get a medal or something?

    Now off to download that new puppygames title...
     
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    Right. I think the point people are missing is that it's not that games about violence sell, and games about rape don't. The point is that most people think that games are purely about fun... so a game that glorifies the player's actions and/or treats them lightly will sell, but a game that makes you feel bad won't. This is somewhat in contrast to movies... a feel-good piece of fluff might do better at the box office than something unsettling and depressing, but the latter doesn't get completely ignored/banned/condemned.
     
  14. princec

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    ...in about 2 months time :)

    Cas :)
     
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    Now that it's well past the point of relevancy, I'll add my own unimportant opinion:

    I didn't watch the trailer OR play the game. Why would I? I'm really not interested.

    I'm familiar with a lot of rape-fantasy porn in the Japanese game world. Some of it I even get affiliate cuts for selling, although I intentionally don't promote games that I find personally over-the-line. I don't make a huge fuss about the ones I don't like and I'm not in favor of censorship, but I'm not going to immerse myself in stuff I find gross just to try and show how tough I am either. People like that stuff for a lot of different reasons, and not necessarily because they actually want to behave like that in real life.

    But what's the point of this game? As best as I can understand it, it's that "Rape is Bad". Well, okay, I already know that, thanks. Why would I play it, then?

    If the intention is to shock the kind of people who go "haha rape lol let's play that"? I think it's misguided... attempts to shock people by upping the violence/creepiness tend to misfire. a certain portion of the population will be briefly shocked and then demand more. see 'misaimed fandom'.

    Also, sexual violence doesn't only happen to women. KTHXBAI.
     
  16. Qitsune

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    I just read this, which I thought was somehow relevant:

    Critic of a zombie rape movie and it's a good critic, actually, one of the critic's only problem, is apparently the movie is too subtle... (I will try and give the game a go)
     
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    Loved the atmosphere in this game (actually creepy for a game with pixel graphics), especially compared to a LOT of "professional" games I have seen with same art style (and dead featureless world).

    I keep the morals and all that pretentious crap out of my mind when playing a video game so I can't really comment on what the fuss is all about with some posters. The trailer on the other hand is perfect and doesn't need to be remade or have any new versions, mainly cause it will spoil the 2 min game if the author shows anything else than the most "eye catching moment" from the game. I love the little touches, like that grass crumple effect.

    The gameplay can use a few minor touches/tweaks. The biggest help would be some popup tips for which button (on keyboard) to press where for first run (I ended up trying to open a lot of doors before that long walk to find a.. building with no door? :confused: ) in some locations or on objects (if interactable). Maybe some extra detail on the "subjects"? Some background info? (or that will ruin the "best left unexplained" moments in the game?)

    For some reason there was a bit of pause when switching the screens (or rooms) for me.

    Anyways, creepy game, great atmosphere, touchy subject. It's almost perfect.

    While we're at it, it's posted under the right category in the forum as well. We do need some freeware indie games like these over another asteroid clone, another RPG maker game or another .. well, you know.
     
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    Just because you can does not mean you should.
     
  19. JGOware

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    "We do need some freeware indie games like these over another asteroid clone.."

    Sure thing.. nothing like booting up a game about rape to kill a few minutes during your busy day eh? pefffff.. :rolleyes:

    I'll take Asteroids anyday over this.
     
  20. aaron

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    If I had a choice, I'd rather be raped than killed. :eek:
     

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