Whoa don't read the topic for a bit and was keen to see some interesting conversation about standards of games and this place goes insane. Umm... back on topic I guess. Can anybody point out some games that get praise but really don't meet the polished standards. I saw ROTT, Gemini Rue and other games mentioned as good games, but what about ones that prove the point in the negative (ie they are lacking due to failing to polish)? About 2 weeks after Torchlight was released it became very obvious that it was a bit deal they left out multiplayer, obviously they left it out to polish what they had and stick to their strengths, but maybe they should have left something else out as it would have increased sales because I know when I finished SP I gave my copy to my brothers to complete since they couldn't play with me. Edit: Ohh heck, I typed this post and 5 others appeared!