Anybody used Project Wonderful recently?

Discussion in 'Development & Distribution' started by mrkwang, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. mrkwang

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    As admin of Pig-Min Agency, I'd like to try everything to let [Sand Castle - Prelude] famous. (http://arcshock.com/en/entry/Sand-Castle-The-Faded-Memories-Prelude-2)

    And playthisthing.com had advertisement from projectwonderful.com, very cheap, so joined it around 4 days ago.

    I tried several things for banner, as just picture / texts / somewhat well made banner.
    I tried several ad publishers, as freeware site / gaming blog / Cycle forum from Portugal ... etc.

    Just the problem is, even if it showed to lots of people (slightly over 10,000) through several sites, almost no click happened.

    I didn't spend much money. Just put it 5$, used under 2$ until now. I was searching for cheap (even 0$) banners only. Maybe that's the problem while I can't get good visitors, however I tried around 20 websites.

    So...
    If possible, please let me have better idea using this.

    - Must I pay more, to be shown over 100,000 visitors per day sites?
    - Project Wonderful is strong for Web Comics, but I've not tried them very well. Good for Gaming ads, or just skip it?
    - I got over 2,000 views from playthisthing.com yesterday, almost no visitors came in. Is it usual, or just I did wrong?

    Please let me know about that. Thanks.
     
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  2. Maupin

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    My experience is almost two years old, but I discovered that as soon as I found a somewhat gaming-related site to advertise on, a big online Poker site would come in and outbid my ads by a significant amount. The same one, every time. It seemed like they were using me to do their research, so I just gave up.

    I did get what seemed to be a fair number of clicks for the (original) price on gaming-related sites while it lasted, though. On the other hand, web comic and Etsy sites didn't result in many clicks at all.
     
  3. papillon

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    Trust in the magic of the free market! Unless a site is brand new to the system, if its traffic is super-cheap, it's super-cheap for a reason. If you think you see a fabulous bargain, you're almost certainly wrong. Don't expect to get more than 1 or 2 clicks from something priced $0!

    Where the ads are placed and what the nature of the visitors are makes a big difference in click-through, and the bidding trends will usually even out to a standardised level of what that traffic is really worth.
     
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    Since when they introduced geo-targeting PW lost much interest for me. Apart US traffic, the rest has a suspiciously (unexplicable) low CPC. The same ad has 1.29% vs 0.25% CTC between US vs EU traffic, making EU advertising basically impossible with PW (unless you like losing money).
     
  5. lennard

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    Me too. It was a lot of work but I felt like about 18 months ago I was getting rewarded for searching the back catalogs. I recently spent $100 on Audio Lark (my wifes company) and we didn't get much bang for the buck. Admittedly I was spending on the bigger sites that aren't as good of a deal on a per visitor basis but I didn't feel like we got the results that I used to before the geo targeting stuff.
     
  6. mrkwang

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    Thanks for the all kind answers. And if I'd summary your words...

    - Big Casino attacked & real game ads were gone, 2 years ago.
    -> Thanks for the tip. To our happy (or not), I can't see Casino ads for these 4 days. Maybe they moved out.

    - If its traffic is super-cheap, it's super-cheap for a reason.
    -> Thanks for the tip again. That could be essential thing for our world, just I forgot. However I must know how much money per day could be good for 1 banner, after experiments.

    - Geo-targeting changed lots of things, badly.
    -> I'm new to PW, so don't know earlier status. Maybe Geo-Targeting is not so good? Make 1 banner to all over the world was better, unlike these days? (In fact, I like that Geo-targeting idea by myself. Maybe I'm too new to advertisement world.)

    If there are some more kind people who answers this thread, I'd be appreciated. I like basic idea of PW, but not sure it's really worth it.

    P.S. : PW has TOO STRONG part of Web-Comics websites, as I experienced. I'm not sure it's good for Games or not. Comics - Game has some shared fans, but not sure exactly. (Same for Web-games.)
     

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