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Bad Sector
11-10-2006, 01:20 AM
http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index calculates the popularity of programming languages based on their popularity on web discussions each month.

Interestingly, Java is ranked #1 and followed by C, C++ and Visual Basic.

voxel
11-10-2006, 02:01 AM
And interestingly enough.. all I hear these days is Ruby, Ruby, Ruby. It's the latest Enterprise fad... (like CORBA, .NET, Java, etc...) and now there's evidence that people are googling it.

Would have thought Javascript would place higher...

supagu
11-10-2006, 03:01 AM
web discussions usually revolve about getting help....

Bad Sector
11-10-2006, 03:37 AM
EDIT: "The ratings are based on the world-wide availability of skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors." - from the site.

princec
11-10-2006, 07:38 AM
I got really excited by Ruby and tried it out. Fecking awful. As bad as Python.

Why can't anyone just get BASIC right?

Cas :)

Fabio
11-10-2006, 07:43 AM
Why can't anyone just get BASIC right?Because it has that Garbage Collection disease. ;)

Rod Hyde
11-10-2006, 01:06 PM
http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index calculates the popularity of programming languages based on their popularity on web discussions each month.
Of course popularity is no indicator of taste.

If there was an equivalent of Desert Island Discs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Island_Discs) for programming languages in which you were forced to pick just two, then for my ascetic tastes it would be C for the sheer speed of the code it produces and Python (http://www.python.org) for its expressiveness.

What would you pick?

--- Rod

HairyTroll
11-10-2006, 02:32 PM
What would you pick?


C and Lisp

Barlok
11-10-2006, 06:38 PM
For developing ( games, simple applications ) - Blitz3d or BlitzMax with MaxGUI. I love BASIC! :D

Diragor
11-10-2006, 09:43 PM
And interestingly enough.. all I hear these days is Ruby, Ruby, Ruby. It's the latest Enterprise fad... (like CORBA, .NET, Java, etc...) and now there's evidence that people are googling it.

As much fun as it is to bash on the flavor of the month, I have to say that I love Ruby. I heard about Rails just before the hype launched into overdrive and I quickly got into it. I like Rails but most of what I like about it is thanks to Ruby. I don't understand what's not to like about Ruby, but to each his own.

I was a Delphi devotee for almost 10 years, so clearly I'm not concerned with what's popular :), but Ruby is my new favorite language. I've tried lots of other languages and development tools but there's something about the way things work in Delphi and Ruby that make them more intuitive and enjoyable to me than all the others.

HairyTroll
11-10-2006, 10:37 PM
As much fun as it is to bash on the flavor of the month, I have to say that I love Ruby.

Ruby has been around since '95, almost as long as Java.

voxel
11-11-2006, 03:03 AM
As much fun as it is to bash on the flavor of the month, I have to say that I love Ruby.

I think they hype is with Rails and not so much with Ruby itself. I missed out on the Struts hype too... isn't Rails based on something similar? Anyhow it sounds like solid tech (direct object to db mapping), but not something that scales to large enterprises (could be wrong).

I would like to see Lua gain more popularity. It's small and pretty.

I want my underlying tech to be built on fast + reliable tech: C++, OpenGL/DirectX, ODE, FMOD - but I don't want to code AI, game logic, and UI in a low-level non-dynamic language like C/C++.

puggy
11-11-2006, 04:45 AM
As much fun as it is to bash on the flavor of the month, I have to say that I love Ruby. I heard about Rails just before the hype launched into overdrive and I quickly got into it. I like Rails but most of what I like about it is thanks to Ruby. I don't understand what's not to like about Ruby, but to each his own.

I was a Delphi devotee for almost 10 years, so clearly I'm not concerned with what's popular :), but Ruby is my new favorite language. I've tried lots of other languages and development tools but there's something about the way things work in Delphi and Ruby that make them more intuitive and enjoyable to me than all the others.

woohoo, another delphi fan, i'm not alone.

picking 2 would be hard for me. Delphi would be my no 1, easier (and thus quicker) to code than c/c++/c# and just as powerful, if not moreso. just a shame it's not as popular as it should be

I like php it's probably the best web based language, however if i want something to interact with my delphi programs on a web based front, it would be asp as it's better at working with dll's to interact with delphi.

Brian A. Knudsen
11-11-2006, 04:53 PM
i was onto delphi also, but it was very hard to find gamdev partners so i rejoined c++.

This list is result 'what people know' and what peopel know is what they are taught in school. As former teacher i can say java tops because its what people know, nothing else. its nice clean and easy to understanad, but its choosen because people have no other tools in the box.

:9

Diragor
11-12-2006, 08:32 PM
Ruby has been around since '95, almost as long as Java.

I realize that. By "flavor of the month" I mean the thing that's currently getting a (perhaps) disproportionate amount of hype and attention. Voxel referring to it as a fad illustrates my point, and I agree with him that the hype is mostly about Rails, not so much Ruby. I think it's also true that Struts was an inspiration for Rails. I could swear I read a comment from DHH to that effect but I could be wrong.