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zoombapup

07-04-2006, 01:19 PM

Ok, I've been thinking about this for some time now. (Pretty much since I started heading out to IGC in the US every October).

I've got a very light teaching load this year (i.e. almost none) and time to do research and enterprise stuff (for those that dont know, I teach game dev at the University of Bolton).

So I was thinking, maybe I might use this opportunity to actually get a UK Indie Games Conference off the ground.

When I say conference, I'm probably being a bit grandiose. I really mean "meeting" :)

But with a bit of fiddling I might be able to find someone to give us some cash towards hosting it.

So I was thinking I'd guage interest by posting on a few forums and see if there is any interest in such a thing.

Just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. It would most likely be one of:

1) A single day conference with a bit of dev chat and then some schmoozing on the evening

2) A couple of days, with cheap accomodation, a bit of training and dev chat, plus some schmoozing and maybe some biz people

There would be minimal cost to cover expenses for building hire etc.. Venue would need to be found and a date picked etc.

I really dont want to step on the toes of "real" conferences like the casuality one, but I feel the need for this kind of thing, because there are enough UK indies and unless we congregate a bit, it can get very lonely and isolated.

So, just as a positive action you can do initially. Is to email me at the address given below if you are interested AND pass this mail along to anyone you know who might be.

If there is enough interest shown, I'll get a website setup and start discussions about what/where/when. Most likely it'd be somewhere around Manchester area or London, but given london gets everything.. my vote is Manchester :)

So the email address to express interest is:

indieconf@gmail.com

Thanks. Phil "zoombapup" Carlisle

Indiepath

07-04-2006, 01:26 PM

To be honest I'd just like to meet my fellow UK based devs, have a chat and a few beers. If someone wants to set one up I'll throw some sponsor money in.

PS. I'm not really interested in the sort of stuff Codersworkshop do.

Addictive 247

07-04-2006, 02:22 PM

I'm with Indiepath on this one - a "meet up and piss up" would do for me. If you want to do that over a couple of days then even better :D
Manchester area would also be best for me.

TheMysteriousStranger

07-04-2006, 02:34 PM

I would be interested, but I don't think it'll be any time soon for me :( I'm utterly skint and I'm trying to sell my house, which is leaving me even more skint, short on free time and stressed out.

It amazes me how many UK indies there are - it has to be the worst country in the world to be selling indie games from.

papillon

07-04-2006, 02:44 PM

No money, don't drink, probably not a good match for a party. :)

zoombapup

07-04-2006, 02:48 PM

I dunno pap, you could do party tricks to keep us all entertained..

So what I'm hearing is you'd rather have a few beers and a bit of a chin-wag..

Which is fairy nuff. I just think its easier to get a bit of moolah out of random people if you actually dress it up as developmental in some way.

zoombapup

07-04-2006, 02:51 PM

Plus its a good old trek for people. Unless there is some compelling reason to come, its likely many wont.

Having said that, start small and work your way up is our motto isnt it. So maybe thats the way to go here.

Indiepath

07-04-2006, 03:03 PM

Come down to Dorset, bring your tents and kip in the garden.

JPickford

07-04-2006, 03:36 PM

If its Manchester I'll come. There will be beer yes?

I've never quite understood the conference side of these things but meeting people is alway good.

I could probably offer a spare bed or two house-trained developers.

Fost

07-04-2006, 04:37 PM

Mark and I could probably make Manchester if the timing is good.

I'll also vow to keep Papillon plied with coke* for the night if she's skint as I'm dying to hear about her new game :)
(*the fizzy variety.)

As for venue, might I suggest 'Gaylords' who do a mean Chicken Biryani. :)

Mark refuses to go to London unless it's absolutely necessary, because he thinks it's rubbish. :) There's no talking to him on the matter; I think he had a bad experience there he doesn't want to remember.

zoombapup

07-04-2006, 04:44 PM

Well, looks like Manc it is..

I'll get scouting for some reasonable venues.

papillon

07-04-2006, 04:48 PM

*grin*

No, really, I'm very broke. Further than London is out of reach for me. Don't even get _there_ more than once a year...

On the bright side, the home office called yesterday and said my citizenship papers should be coming soon! Which way to the welfare office? :)

sillytuna

07-04-2006, 05:58 PM

I can come over from Sheffield... altho I do have a pathological hatred of Bolton...

Ste Pickford

07-05-2006, 10:05 AM

I'll come if its in Manchester.

cliffski

07-05-2006, 10:17 AM

I'll probably come anyway, even though I live SW of London...

JPickford

07-05-2006, 10:30 AM

Mark refuses to go to London unless it's absolutely necessary, because he thinks it's rubbish. :) .

I agree with Mark.

MarkSponge

07-05-2006, 12:43 PM

If it was in Manchester I would come and wouldn't mind paying.

Applewood

07-05-2006, 12:51 PM

Looks like we dipped out. We coulda come along and maybe throw a few hundred into the pot, but Manchester's a bloody long way for us.

Now, if you fancied Brighton....

cliffski

07-05-2006, 01:15 PM

bah, you wimp. Im in Surrey and I'll go :D. Although I won't object if its nearer, thats for sure.

JPickford

07-05-2006, 01:16 PM

Looks like we dipped out. We coulda come along and maybe throw a few hundred into the pot, but Manchester's a bloody long way for us.

Now, if you fancied Brighton....

Use the few hundred on a train ticket + hotel.

Applewood

07-05-2006, 02:03 PM

Heh, you guys forget/don't know that we're on the Isle of Wight. It costs a few hundred just to get off it! :S

Per mile travelled, the 1960's era ferry trip (1.5 miles) is a few hundred times more expensive than the QE2 and is recognised as the most expensive strip of water to cross (per mile) on the planet.

And to think the Statten Island ferry is free!

</soapbox>

For us to travel that far we're talking 3 (maybe 4 days) for 2 guys and tbh we can't really afford the time to do it properly. No worries though - have a beer on us.

JPickford

07-05-2006, 02:48 PM

Ah sorry I assumed you were near London.

You could do a David Walliams instead.

Applewood

07-05-2006, 03:27 PM

Technically I am, we can get there in 2 hours by car when we need to.

I think this is just too much a trek for a beer and a moan about publishers tbh, much though I'd like to put a few faces to the names. There are some good people here I'd love to meet.

Plus, having lived in Congleton for several years, I swore I'd never go back! :-D

JPickford

07-05-2006, 03:40 PM

Applewood

07-05-2006, 03:42 PM

why aye man!

Applewood

07-05-2006, 04:00 PM

PS. I see you did some work on the jizmondo.

Including ourselves, that makes 3 people I know of who got onto that platform. Hope you got paid before all the bizarreness happened. You just couldn't make that shit up!

JPickford

07-05-2006, 04:13 PM

I didn't actually work on the Giz. Warthog went off with the rights to Sticky Balls (our game but they bought our Studio and closed it down). They did the Giz version - which I haven't seen.

sillytuna

07-06-2006, 03:22 AM

Add us to the gizm list. We did get paid, just about!

Applewood

07-06-2006, 03:36 AM

Heh, you're already on it - it's a bloody small list. lol

Teq

07-06-2006, 05:33 AM

The giz was a wierd situation :o As for conference (aka Beerfest), possibly interested, at least I'm not living in Cornwall any more (I'm glad those strange folk on the Wight have to pay to leave :P)

Applewood

07-06-2006, 05:36 AM

The best bit is that grockles have to pay double to get here :D

Teq

07-06-2006, 08:41 AM

:) I haven't been there since I was about 6, fun days, http://www.blackgangchine.com/ seems to have moved on a bit since then ;)

Applewood

07-06-2006, 08:55 AM

Half of it fell into the sea a few years back.

After a couple of years dicking around trying to get funding and various planning permissions, they've now built back into the surrounding hills away from the cliff.

Bloody great place for an evening out

GrahamGoring

07-06-2006, 09:19 AM

What about people who would really quite like to go indie but haven't done so yet? Could they come to the meet?

Also, I think that's three games industry Paul Johnsons I know about now. Crivens.

Applewood

07-06-2006, 11:02 AM

I woulda thought you/that sort of person would probably be the one who gets most out of it tbh.

GrahamGoring

07-06-2006, 11:17 AM

Yes, especially during the bit where I eat the other attendee's brains to gain their skills and knowledge. Well, I'm up for a Manchester meet, anyhoo. :)

Applewood

07-06-2006, 11:32 AM

You're shit outta luck with me then. Not only am I not going, I think my brains were fried a long time ago :)

cliffski

07-06-2006, 01:22 PM

if it does end up in distant manchester, and anyone near me (North Surrey) wants a lift there and back, I'm game.

zoombapup

07-08-2006, 10:14 AM

I'm pretty sure we're going to run it in the Manc area.

I'm trying to see if we cant host it at the Uni I work for (Bolton, just north of Manchester and really no further if your driving or on train).

Not that I'm trying to promote the place, mostly just because I know that we have an SU that will be mostly empty and we have halls of res which I'm hoping we can get permission to let people stay at cheap.

That way I can use our labs for a showoff session before going off to the SU for drinkies afterwards.

I'm waiting to hear back from the bar manager and the estates people right now.

Phil.

Kite65

07-09-2006, 09:24 AM

Sounds good, Perhaps it will give me a kick to get something completed and out before it :)

If there is anybody else from the scottish central belt (glasgow-edinburgh), I could prob provide a lift down.

Used to drive down to Manchester, every week for over a year. Didn't think I would look forward to another drive down.

zoombapup

07-10-2006, 02:39 AM

Manchester from scotland? thats insane :)

Kite65

07-16-2006, 04:39 AM

Just back from a short holiday :)

Driving down to Machester from Scotland was OK.
Kick off very early in the morning so that there was NO Traffic.
Only me and the very ocassional Eddie Stobard trucker
Freedom of the open road and all that.
Now impossible due to existence of various speed cameras :(

But I was very glad when I came to my senses and changed jobs.

MibUK

07-19-2006, 01:31 PM

Anywhere in UK is OK for me, Milton Keynes being fairly central.

And I'd be interested in any UK indie trade show / conference regardless of it's content.

Hijacking this thread somewhat, what conferences do people think are of interest to Indie Developers?

I recently attended the ACCU (www.accu.org (http://www.accu.org)) conference this year thanks to my full time employer (until tomorrow), and was well worth attending for those who do C or C++, because it covered a lot of cutting edge compiler stuff. (Plus this year had the yearly Python track, in which I met and had dinner with the Python group including Guido Van Rossum among
the other dignitaries. very cool).

I have traditionally gone to ECTS in previous years, but didn't amke it last year due to time constraints. Would like to GDCE, but am unsure of it's applicability.
Unfortunately on my meagre budget, USA is not an option for conferences, but I think there was a Casual games conference in amsterdam a month ago or so, I found out about it way to late to schedule time to go, but will go again next year if I remember what conference it is.

What other things would be of interest to indies thats UK/West europe based?

Also if anybody knows, I believe it's possible to claim the money spent on conferences back against corporation tax, is that correct?

zoombapup

07-19-2006, 01:43 PM

I'd not bother yourself with GDCE, its good to meet your mates, but otherwise isnt extra hot.

I'd say that Jeff Tunnell (www.makeitbigingames.com) summary of conferences was pretty spot on. Basically dont bother until you've got something to take.

I would suggest getting your games done and go to casuality (thats the amsterdam one) next year.

I'll be there, as well as IGC in October (although thats in the states). You'll probably learn more and get a better more supportive vibe from our little indie shindig. Which is going to be in Bolton btw..

Casuality seems like the only really useful conf in europe for indies. Sad really.

I'm hoping to fix up going to chinajoy next year too.

Jamie W

07-28-2006, 05:17 AM

I'd be quite interested in coming along to this.

Has anything been finalised yet; in terms of location / date?

Fost

07-28-2006, 06:21 AM

I'm trying to see if we cant host it at the Uni I work for (Bolton, just north of Manchester and really no further if your driving or on train).

Maybe if not, we could all just go for a meal in Manchester.
Last time I went to Bolton I wanted to commit suicide.

zoombapup

07-28-2006, 06:54 AM

Aye, I know what you mean, but I wanted it to be a bit more than just a griping session, which means organisation, which means I get to choose where and that where has to be convenient to actually organise.

One things thats troubling me though, is that my target date of early september seems a tad short notice right now. Do you think its ok for you guys who would travel a bit further?

I'll try and get the place booked up early next week. We are looking at the club mystry complex: specifically the "party room"

http://www.clubmistry.co.uk/party_room.asp

I know I know, boltons not the happiest place :0 but at least there should be cheap accomodation (I'm still waiting to hear back from the Universities estates department on doing an overnight thing in halls).

If this doesnt all come together, I'm going to propose we do a more local meeting at a pub in manchester somewhere.

GrahamGoring

08-01-2006, 08:56 AM

I need about a month's notice (ideally) to book time off of work, so if it's not a weekend then I'd need to know fairly soonish when it was gonna' happen.

As for getting to Bolton, I should imagine it'd be a cakewalk from Manchester and so as long as I could prevail upon a Mancunian friend for somewhere to stay overnight I'd be up for it.

JPickford

08-01-2006, 11:28 AM

Yep. You can stay here Graham.

GrahamGoring

08-02-2006, 12:54 AM

Yep. You can stay here Graham.

Yay! And with the bare minimum of angling. :)

Ta'

Nutter2000

08-04-2006, 06:28 AM

D'oh, I'm late to this thread.

Well, I'm up for a meet, even if it is Bolton ;), but will need some notice first.

zoombapup

08-04-2006, 06:58 AM

Yeah, given that everyone needs enough notice. I'm going to aim for early November, perhaps late october.

Possibly a friday/saturday session, with friday day as a show-off and friday night as the boozer.

Then we can meet up on the saturday if anyone's feeling up to it (more informally).

Still, I'm hellish busy, so trying to organize this on the side.

cliffski

08-04-2006, 07:00 AM

Hang on, isnt there some game conference in London in October (I'm light on details). We should meet up there shurely?

JPickford

08-04-2006, 09:46 AM

Will it be sponsored by Chorley FM?

Fost

08-05-2006, 05:56 AM

There's something in Nottingham in October too, although I haven't looked into it, I will probably go as it's so near.

Surely the Bolton Conference should be sponsored by Charlie Ball's discount center. I once went past there, and they had a basket outside with cut price vibrators for £1.50. God! I wish I was making this up!

Anyway, if Phil is going to the incredible effort of organising this and it's going to be in Bolton, then I'm happy to invest in a course of anti-depressants ;)

Seriously though - great work Phil, it's about time we Brit-Indies got our act together and kicked some Yankee butt. They love larging it up over us with their regular pizza evenings and get togethers ;)

zoombapup

08-05-2006, 07:18 AM

cliffski, there is the GDC Europe some time.. and some other events that replaced the ECTS stuff.

But nothing really for indies to actually talk shop properly.

cliffski

08-05-2006, 08:06 AM

well for the price of a pizza in the Uk you can buy a sports car in the USA, which probably explains why we dont meet up as often as we should.
Is this london GDC thing free? Sod going along if it's not :D

zoombapup

08-05-2006, 09:43 AM

No, its about 600 quid.

cliffski

08-05-2006, 10:22 AM

ha! 600 quid to listen to a few celebrity game developers give talks that'll be transcribed on the web anyway? What drugs are the shows organisers on?

zoombapup

08-05-2006, 10:27 AM

Yeah, well, try three times that amount for GDC in the states :)

I had to try it out. But the only reason I liked GDC was that I got to meet all of my US mates at a swanky hotel room in the fairmont (a private gathering paid for by some large independant tech/game company :))

GDCE (europe version) as reasonably similar content, but is a hell of a lot smaller.

But yeah, you hit the nail on the head. Why in gods name would you bother, a subscription to any number of academic journals would do you much better (get the ACM online thing for instance). The rest is fluff that will show up on gamasutra or in gamedeveloper.

Or just buy some bleedin books. AI Wisdom 1,2 and 3 for instance! :)

Anyway, sorry.. lost the plot there a bit.

sillytuna

08-07-2006, 09:36 AM

Zomba - 2 big reasons for attending events:

1) Something to show (as you said)
2) Making new contacts.

Meeting friends is good, but (for some of us) it's not only important to "show face" but it's also incredibly useful.

Want to talk to a publisher/portal and have never met face to face? Can be very difficult. However, if you got talking to them in a roundtable/party/bar, life becomes much easier. Many of the guys I've visited in the US this past 3 weeks have been the result of random GDC chats/meetings.

It's worth the money to go to one big one if you can afford it can can get out and about, if you with to be commercial that is.

If you're not commercial, then it's more of a case of going for fun/meet new people, but I'd still say it's worth doing once as long as you take a holiday at the same time!

zoombapup

08-08-2006, 07:24 AM

Yeah, your right Alex, it can be useful if you have actual business to do.

But things like GDC are meant to be about developer training and to that extent I think they just arent worth the price.

I could do a hell of a lot more business at either casuality or one of those publisher pitching conference things too. Not that I'm so bothered about publishers :)

I do love to make contacts though. As you say, its hard to do things without a face to face meeting.

But I guess I'm pretty far away from that style of development :)

jcoleuk

08-11-2006, 03:37 PM

This sounds like a very interesting idea. If you want it to be more of a 'formal business' event you're going to need something to attract people, that means planning presentations, demonstrations and/or activities for the attendees to do.

I'd love to get involved in planning and running something like this unfortunately this year is not a good time for me, and there just isn't sufficient time to get things planned and setup properly if you want a really top-notch event.

Next year would be a different story however.

@ zoombapup:

Would you be able to keep me posted with what’s happening, how things work out and such? I might start planning something like this for next summer. :)

Cheers,
Josh.

zoombapup

08-11-2006, 05:33 PM

I'm currently waiting for the octagon theatre to get back to me about one of thier smaller theatre rooms.

If thats available, I think we'll go for that.

Should give people a decent amount of notice too.

cliffski

08-12-2006, 03:18 AM

I'd be happy just to meet a bunch of local(ish) indies for a pizza and a beer. Or in my case -> wine.

Nutter2000

08-14-2006, 08:00 AM

There's something in Nottingham in October too, although I haven't looked into it, I will probably go as it's so near.

You mean GameCity? http://gamecity.org/

I hadn't heard about this until you mentioned it and I'm not too sure what it's about.

I'll probably go along though since it's on the doorstep :)

princec

08-14-2006, 08:10 AM

Me too.

Cas :)

Nexic

08-17-2006, 03:03 PM

I'd like to get in on something like this. Too be honest I'm not up for some kind of formal event, but a few beers and friendly chat would be cool. London would be preferable for me, but if needs be I'll go to Manchester.

Nutter2000

08-18-2006, 01:25 AM

Yeah I agree. A few beers and a chat is all I'm looking for too :)

zoombapup

08-18-2006, 01:28 AM

Hi Nex.

I've been pricing up various venues. Trying to find somewhere thats essentially like a big pub with tables and a nice atmosphere. We'll be running something like an expo of sorts for people who want to bring thier games and show them off and get feedback (it can be hard for indies to actually get thier games in front of other people for a real test and given we have a bunch of rooms full of PC's why not use the opportunity).

The real value in running something like this, is to be aware of other people in the same position, learn from thier experience and generally increase the support/friend network some. So it wont be some schmooze fest, or someone trying to sell you something, which is what most events are.

I went to an IGDA thing this week and there was almost no value in it. Just a bunch of EA guys getting drunk on the EA bar tab. I just dont see the point.

I'm going to see the Octagon Theatre facilities today hopefully. That will give me some idea of if we can do it there.

cliffski

08-22-2006, 09:47 AM

I think a meeting of proper indies would be different, we all have a lot of business sense, and knowledge to share. A bucnh of guys working for EA arent exactly going to have the same desire to really 'network' and excchange information.
Anyway, I'm up for a pizza and a beer, especially if its remotely local, I'm by J3 of the M3 (surrey/hampshire border). whose vaguely near there?

princec

08-23-2006, 01:36 AM

Not me... I'm down at J24 on the M5. I can see we're all going to end up in Reading aren't we :)

Cas :)

Nutter2000

08-23-2006, 01:46 AM

J25 of the M1 :p

We do seem to be centring on Reading, maybe we should have it at the festival :D j/k

Zoom seems to be doing a grand job of boldly organising where no indie has organised before! ;)

Edit: Must learn where I live

cliffski

08-23-2006, 04:56 AM

Reading suits me!

princec

08-23-2006, 05:16 AM

And me too.

Cas :)

zoombapup

08-23-2006, 07:08 AM

Thats cos your soft southern shites :)

If you take the whole of the UK (including ireland), scribe a circle around its outermost points such that it encompasses the whole of the UK. Then look at the centroid of that circle.

Guess where you get?

Pretty much Bolton!

Yes, bolton IS the center of the universe.. well, the uk.. nearly.

Seriously though, given that nobody else is going to get off thier arse and given that I can only just be slightly bothered to get off mine, Bolton seems the ideal place for it (given I get it for free).

Place should be booked up by end of this week. I'm trying to throw a website together to act as a registration page (if anyone wants to throw me a quick signup page in PHP or something that'd be great, cos I know NOTHING about webbie stuff).

I want a registration page so that I can send a polite reminder about a month before the event and so I know how many staff to book for the bar.

The venue WILL be.. The University of Bolton Bistro! yes.. well, its basically the cafeteria upstairs, but they allow people to book it, its got a bar and its got chairs and tables a-plenty for people to schmooze and chat and generally mingle. Sorry, no dance floors though! I know you all want to show off your body poppin skillz and all, but that'll have to wait.

My plan is to hold it on the first friday of November (which turns out November 3rd), have an afternoon session in the games labs here for people to get feedback, test thier games, generally show stuff off. Then have the meeting on the night, with perhaps a smaller "goodbye" gathering somewhere the following day depending on wether people havent killed themselves the night before.

A few european indies will be along and there should be plenty of space if we need it.

So hopefully be announced this week!

Nutter2000

08-23-2006, 07:23 AM

Yes, bolton IS the center of the universe..

Now THAT is the most depressing thought I've heard in a long long time! :p

Venue sound fine, will have to check on the date though :cool:

cliffski

08-23-2006, 07:33 AM

I'll be in south america ;(

zoombapup

08-23-2006, 08:15 AM

Why is it EVERY date I find, there are loads of people away :)

Ah well, next time Cliffy, I'll set a different date. Maybe even make this thing bi-annual given its pretty damn cheap.

Phil.

Nexic

08-23-2006, 09:15 AM

Ah heck, really wanted to meet cliff >.< Oh well I guess I'll settle for Cas! :D

GWYDDGWYRDD

08-07-2007, 04:05 PM

Bored to tears :(

zoombapup

08-07-2007, 05:19 PM

We're going to be trying to get this as part of gamecity in October..

actually.. I should announce that shouldnt I?

GWYDDGWYRDD

08-07-2007, 06:01 PM

So very boring

Mephs

08-08-2007, 12:44 AM

GWYDDGWYRDD

08-08-2007, 01:20 AM

The university I work at as tech support is one of the major parties involved in organising GameCity (I know a few faces that are involved in organising it too) and though unfortunately I didn't get to see much last year as I was on holiday most of the time it was on.

If anyone wanted to go for a beer/whatever when it's on this year, let me know. I'm not an Indie (yet!) but have a huge interest in games programming and it might be good to join others as I'd imagine it wouldn't be quite the same going to it alone!

Cheers,

Steve

To be honest I've had enough of computer games. And I think being an independent game programmer must be as entertaining as being Alice the Chatbot, only ever wrestling your own ideas until you finally challenge your virtual opponents, then finding someone from another university can thrash you!

Mr. Oswald, I'm older than you. I've finished more space invaders off than you've had hot dinners. And I prefer those to pizza. In Aberystwyth we eat Bara Brith, a fruity loaf. In cyberspace they cannot hear you eat cream. Eat cake.

Tie yourself up in Notts if you want to carry on this thread. I'm outta here.;) Have a ketchup fight or something, you love open source.

I hate open source.

God bless you all.

Mephs

08-08-2007, 02:55 AM

Umm.. ok, your point being?

GWYDDGWYRDD

08-08-2007, 03:13 AM

Umm.. ok, your point being?
:mad:
Mephs, as manly as a treehugger, as witty as a wooden spoon, as intricate in prose as a green-eyed space invader humming his geodesic poetry, as down to earth as an open-source tetris clone. This is war!

Steve, remarks beautiful as a golden penguin.

A word of advice, take it as you will. Be on your merry way: stay here and you might find someone takes you out.

I'm off to work now. Whistle while you work... :mad:

GWYDDGWYRDD

08-08-2007, 04:04 AM

Well at least this BB software is not open source. :rolleyes:

Mephs

08-08-2007, 05:11 AM

Well done, you can use google. With my powers of googlism I can see you are somewhat scarily Christian and your name is David (and a whole lot more than that too)... I must be psychic.

By the way, is your post supposed to be a threat? I see you've made 7 posts and they are all trolling. "Take me out" if you must, I will make of it that you have pretty much lost it... if you ever "had it" to begin with.

Cheers,

steve

Desktop Gaming

08-08-2007, 05:44 AM

Gotta love cyber warriors, eh? ;)

You think with Mr Greenwood's alleged degree and all, he'd have known how to start a new thread to bitch at people instead of digging up a year-old one, let alone have the intelligence to not join a games programming community if he's sick of games.

Chinny reckon.

:D

Mephs

08-08-2007, 05:50 AM

Heh, yes, didn't realise this thread was so old actually. I'm used to the GD.net forums where you can't necro threads. Never mind though, it's still relevant I think.

GWYDDGWYRDD

08-08-2007, 07:26 AM

You'll have to do better than this:

http://chantalstainedglass.50megs.com/trollhunt.html

According to my personal web server logs you're OBSESSED with stalking me!

Well done, you can use google. With my powers of googlism I can see you are somewhat scarily Christian and your name is David (and a whole lot more than that too)... I must be psychic.

By the way, is your post supposed to be a threat? I see you've made 7 posts and they are all trolling. "Take me out" if you must, I will make of it that you have pretty much lost it... if you ever "had it" to begin with.

Cheers,

steve

Gotta love cyber warriors, eh? ;)

You think with Mr Greenwood's alleged degree and all, he'd have known how to start a new thread to bitch at people instead of digging up a year-old one, let alone have the intelligence to not join a games programming community if he's sick of games.

Chinny reckon.

:D

Wel, ym fy ddinas, Manceinion, dyn ni'n siarad yn saesneg sydd yn cael ei galw "ENGLISH" yna. "PLAIN ENGLISH" neu "OFFENSIVE" yw'r ffordd reit.

A fy ngradd?

Pam dyn ni'n eisiau gwybod am hwn?

Dych chi'n stwpid!

Dw i'n hen myfyriwr Prifsgol Cymru Aberystwyth gyda Gradd Ffiseg a Ffiseg y planedau a'r gofod (Planetary and Space Physics or PSP). Dw i wedi cael ANRHYDEDD CYMRU. A fel hyn, A FEL HYN, Ie ("YEAH") I have a degree. Ydw, I do. Ti deall? Comprendez?

Diolch. Ydw, gradd gyda fi. Ac ydw, Cristnogol dw i. I am indeed a Christian.

Beat that! Losers! COLLWYR!

LOSERS!

Cadwch cerdd hir o pier byr! Take a long walk off a short pier!

Jesus Christ is Lord! Harglwydd Iesu Grist :confused: