Google update

[lakibuk]

There seems to be an update going on.
Some sites page rank changed quite a bit.
E.g. arcadetown.com fell to PR4, youtube.com to 3(!).
Mine dropped from 4 to 3, too.
Pretty odd.

[Jack Norton]

Yes noticed that. I actually went up to PR6 from PR5, so for now it's ok with me :) maybe they're going to penalize sites without any unique content? :confused:

[Roman Budzowski]

Well, there seem to be some fuss about it, though my sites didn't change according to prchecker.info. ANAWIKI is still PR 5, RunesOfAvalon.com is PR4. I am sure that this is due to my "great and unique" blogs ;)

cheers
Roman

[jankoM]

Some say they penalized the sites that sell links - aka TLA . Bravekidgames went from 5 (it was 5 for more than a year) to 2 :/

bkg has big number of natural/unpayed or anything links to it... my few months old pages qubidraw and timeeaters who only have link to it from my blog also have pr 2

[ZuluBoy]

Hurrah! www.PlayDetective.com is now PR4 :p

[Promaginy]

I just checked my two sites... and am completely befuddled.

HeroPath.com (http://www.HeroPath.com) has a PR of 2 (hey its better than the 0 a month ago) but Promaginy.com (http://www.Promaginy.com) has a PR of 3. Promaginy.com has nothing on it except a link to HeroPath.com and our partner.

Why would Promaginy.com have a higher PR? It has no content on it. :confused:

[Spore Man]

Wahhhh! www.LilGames.com from PR5 to PR4 ! :(

[JoKa]

Although I only have few content-related links on my websites, 3 sites were decreased from PR4 to PR3. The PR sucks, but I don't care too much about it, because my position in the serps wasn't affected.

[Tertsi]

Omg. My blog went from PR 5 to PR 2 (I did wonder why it had PR 5 but still). mitorahgames.com from PR 5 to PR 3. battlesofnorghan.com from PR 4 to PR 3.
Not looking good.

[lakibuk]

I think SEO experts don't give much about PR anyway. Some even call it another useless metric. Still nice to have it, i like numbers like these.

[princec]

We languish at PR5 and always have done.

Cas :)

[oNyx]

Omg. My blog went from PR 5 to PR 2 (I did wonder why it had PR 5 but still).[...]

Mine went from 3 to 4, which is pretty neat for 3 months and 28 posts. :)

[Sharpfish]

We languish at PR5 and always have done.

Cas :)

I remember your site being PR6 quite a while back (the time when it went down because it didn't auto re-register or whatever), I joked about grabbing a nice PR6 website... maybe i'm wrong.

Anyway, all of my sites dropped by one. That's life in the big city I guess (the internet).

[cliffski]

I dont even know if high is good or low is good? although my sites are 5 and 4 apparently.
which is best?

[princec]

Me either. At any rate our pagerank has never had any effect on sales.

Cas :)

[rioka]

The higher the better. I remember reading that PR is about relevance and is based on how useful your site actually is.

You guys shouldn't be so hung up on PR. It's like those Xbox 360 gamer achievement points. They're only there for appearances, take up your time, and doesn't really add anything to the plate.

[Coyote]

My blog is still at a 5, while my main site is at a 4. Every blog page links back to the main site, but... ah, well. They come for the snark, and stay for the games... if anybody actually looks at the big colorful screenshots and links.

I can't tell you the number of times someone has asked me why I don't have links back to my main site from the blog... I guess that whole right-column... and upper-title area.... really are totally invisible.

[Promaginy]

I dont even know if high is good or low is good? although my sites are 5 and 4 apparently.
which is best?

The max is 10 and 5 is better than 4. As I understand it, it takes a doubling of incoming links to move up a Page Rank. Thus a PR of 10 means that most sites link to it, like Google.com. Wikipedia.org has a PR of 8 for example.

Its a way of measuring relevance and is no way of measuring sales. Though, it would stand to reason that a more relevant games site would also sell more of the games it promotes.

What I want to know, is there a way of finding one's website ranking via keyword? I want to know what position my site comes up when "RPG" is typed into Google. Anybody know?

[Jack Norton]

I recommend you register a google account and start using those various tools:
http://www.google.com/webmasters/

once you verify your site you can know directly from google lot of statistics about the SERPS of your site. The best tool, since comes from google itself :)

[lakibuk]

I recommend you register a google account and start using those various tools:
http://www.google.com/webmasters/

once you verify your site you can know directly from google lot of statistics about the SERPS of your site. The best tool, since comes from google itself :)
Cool. Didn't know this yet.

[jankoM]

Yes, very cool ... I always wanted to know my SERPS for various keywords and
had no idea google has the tools.

Those whos PR has fallen ... do you have TLA on your sites?

Janko

[Tertsi]

TLA = ?

post too short...

[jankoM]

text - link - ads . com

people on various webmaster forums say that they "corrected" the PR fot those websites that sell links. Which I am not saying is not logical.

[MrPhil]

Yes, very cool ... I always wanted to know my SERPS for various keywords and
had no idea google has the tools.

Those whos PR has fallen ... do you have TLA on your sites?

Janko
I have TLA on my blog pages and now have a 3. I used to have a 4 before I move my blog to be part of my portal and so it was a 0 before the update.

[Sakura Games]

Yes I think TLA had an impact, look at gameproducer site, was PR7 and now PR4, and he is heavily using TLA and promoting them.

[Spore Man]

Errrr... but Google Ads are text link ads...

[MrPhil]

TLA = http://www.text-link-ads.com/ to me, not a general term.

I prefer TLA because you are paid by the month, not by clicks.

[Nexic]

Mine still at PR 5. Some of my newer sites got a PR 4 from 0, basically exactly as I expected. Remember that every so often google plays around with that sort of thing, and during every update people can see big increases/decreases, but in general after the dust is settles very little is different from before.

[Tertsi]

This is just quoted forum talk so nothing official: "The menace that webmasters created by selling link spaces on sites based on PageRank is now being contradicted by Google introducing PR leak mechanism . The PR Leak mechanism works on one simple thing :

If the outbound link from your site is irrelevant , you lose PR .

And Google seems to have designed a very sophisticated algorithm for this .

The outcome of all this was that the PageRank of pages dropped on the basis of the outbound links it had and in relation to them .

According to sources , there has been a decline in the daily growth in link sales from .6% to .52% .

The only solution is while you are selling your links , take care that the outbound link is relevant to your site ."

That could be the reason my PRs dropped so bad.

[Pogacha]

This sounds fair and logical.

[lennard]

Hrm, wonder if my randomly linking to whatever I'm thinking about while blogging will mess up my stats.

[Tertsi]

In any case practically all reportings state that their traffic wasn't affected and mine wasn't either so this PR change only matters if you're selling or trading traffic/links and want to show that you have a good PR.

[Spore Man]

Hmm this doesn't seem fair to me. I would hope the algorithm decides based on percentage... Like, I have a few paid text links on my home page, but everything else is very much related to games, etc. Still... tempts me to ditch them...

[ChrisP]

[tin-foil hat]

Google is probably deliberately penalising people who carry text link ads from their competitors, so that more people will use Google's own text ad service. Text ads are, after all, one of Google's main revenue sources.

[/tin-foil hat]

No, I don't really believe that. ;)

[Pogacha]

Hmm this doesn't seem fair to me.
Site relevance based on who is pointing to you and who are you pointing to sounds fair to me ... don't know about any other implication.

[ManuelMarino]

My Weblog from 4 to 0 (ZERO)... why??? What are they doing? This is completely crazy, my Weblog is successful, so many people congratulate with me for it.

Can it be that I changed from www.manuelmarino.com to //manuelmarino.com ? maybe it is seen now as a new website...

[jankoM]

yes .. google diferentiates between www.domain.com and domain.com and counts PR for each one separately.

[Tertsi]

No they don't. Not since the last PR update. www.domain.com and domain.com now have the same PR. If you don't beleive me, check all your sites at http://pr.blogflux.com/.